Wed 26 Jul 2006
In Why Johnny Can’t Authenticate Ben Laurie makes the point that:
I often hear it argued that using something better than passwords will fix the problem, for example, public/private key pairs. There’s actually two fundamental reasons why this ain’t so…
- So long as its possible for users to recover from losing their keys (or passwords, or whatever it is they use to authenticate) in a way that can be imitated by phishers, they will not be helped by these protocols. Phishers currently concentrate on getting people’s passwords simply because that’s the low-hanging fruit. Pluck that fruit and they’ll move on to recovery (which obviously cannot use anything the user can’t hold in their head).
- Computers aren’t secure and users can’t be trusted to make good decisions about what to run. Start using public/private key pairs and they’ll be stolen by viruses and worms instead of fake websites and spam. Indeed, trojans that log keys in order to steal passwords already exist.
This perfectly reasonable opinion really speaks to the current state of affairs. It is war out there and right now the phishers are winning. But I wonder if it really is an unwinnable war, or whether the current state of the art is simply too bogged down in its own dogma to see passed it. In the end no single thing will save us from the phishers since there are just too many angles of attack. However I would like to think that a combination of technologies and user training through good rituals will make phishing a long shot so long that it is not worth the risk of the attempt. I do wish our banks would help out by using what is available now though.
2 Responses to “Phishing forever?”
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July 26th, 2006 at 10:07 pm
I don’t believe user training nor stronger passwords can solve this issue. Users get tired and make mistakes and recently phishers defeated the two-factor RSA authentication which many people thought would solve the phishing issue.
I believe users need to use a password manager that is integrated directly into their browser in order to protect themselves
By using a password manager that is directly integrated into your browser you can protect yourself from phishing attacks and keylogger trojans. Because you rely on the password manager for everything, you can generate strong passwords that are nearly impossible for hackers to guess.
For those on Windows, they can try RoboForm.
July 26th, 2006 at 10:27 pm
Dave,
I don’t believe anything is a silver bullet for phishing. As I said in the blog I think our best hope is to combine enough techniques to make the pay off so low as to make it not worth while. Software assisted profile exchange and password management are definitely high on the list of things that would be part of the solution. However, even those combined do not go far enough.
Regards
Pete